ST. CLOUD, Minnesota — Department of Veteran Affairs representatives said only a single $12 reimbursement has been paid under the law meant to stop the VA from denying payment for non-VA emergency care, a congressional aide familiar with specifics of a meeting between congressional staff and the VA told News Center 7’s I-Team.
Part of that VA emergency care regulation is also known as the “Staab Rule.”
Today Richard Staab, the veteran behind the national case that changed the rule’s language, still remains without a refund from the U.S. Dept. of Veterans Affairs.
Staab hopes his story reaches every U.S. veteran, including the approximately 95,000 who call the Miami Valley home, as a warning about the medical debt he feels they could be left with if the emergency care rule in his name is not changed.
A life-threatening emergency
"It's wrong. I think it's wrong," the 86-year-old Minnesota Air Force veteran told the I-Team.
The exclusive interview comes nearly one decade after Staab's long legal struggle began — on a day back in December 2010.
"Well, the heart was pounding," Staab said. "And I thought if I would sit down and rest, it would go away. But it didn't. So they called the ambulance."
It ended up being life-threatening.
Staab would survive emergency open-heart surgery at a non-VA hospital in St. Cloud, Minnesota, after suffering a heart attack and stroke. He could not communicate for months.
"They told me I'd be lucky if I got out in a year when I was in the nursing home," he said. "I said, 'Oh no, I'll be out of here in six months.' And I was."
When it came time to pay his bills, the VA cited the federal Veterans Emergency Care Fairness Act. The law includes directing how the agency is expected to reimburse veterans for non-VA emergency care.
Under their interpretation of the law, the VA said because Staab had Medicare as other insurance covering part of his non-VA emergency care, they would not reimburse him for any of the remaining $48,000 in bills.
"It's wrong what happened," he said. "And I don't see how all the GIs would know what you need to do to be covered."
Looking back at some of his basic training pictures from 1952, as the Korean War veteran recalled his current VA struggle he also remembered the promise his country made to him.
"You enlist with us. You get to have all health care taken care of. And this, and that. That was the big thing back then," Staab said.
A nearly decade-long legal fight
A large part of Staab's story can symbolically be seen in Staab's lawyer Jackie Schuh's St. Cloud, Minnesota, office.
Schuh is a veteran herself. This mission is personal. Multiple legal filings, medical records, and appeal pleadings show the journey of VA denials representing the Staab case for most of the last eight years.
"There's nobody that should be put in the position that he's been put in where they have to come up with $48,000 to pay for emergency fees," Schuh said. "When they are promised when they sign the dotted line or do their 20 years that they're going to be free from that result. It's ridiculous."
"So it's got to be fixed. I mean it's sad to say what has been promised to Dick, and all the other veterans who have that vested benefit, is not what they're receiving," she added.
After years of legal fights, in 2016, the United States Court of Appeals for Veterans Claims ruled in Staab's favor.
Judges said back in 2010, when Congress had changed the law, they intended for the VA to act as a "secondary payer" when veterans' other health insurance only covered part of their non-VA emergency treatment.
Last year, what was thought to be a final clarification of this statute called the Staab Rule, named after Richard Staab, was finally put into the VA’s rule book.
"And so the Staab Rule made it unconstitutional, or perhaps illegal is a better way to say it, to have the VA implement denials internally when the law required they grant the request for coverage," Schuh said.
VA's history: Not answering refund questions
During the course of this three-year I-Team investigation, a House Veterans Affairs Committee spokesperson confirmed in January 2018 that more than one million Staab Rule-related veterans' claims were waiting to be processed.
However, that number differs from what VA spokesperson Randal Noller's confirmation in February 2018.
Noller said 217,000 veterans are impacted nationally. Refunds, Noller said at that time, would add between $165 million and $298 million to their budget during the next five calendar years.
However, when answering questions in October 2018, an unnamed VA Public Affairs spokesperson said once the Staab Rule was published and all claims were processed, they could not answer how many veterans had been refunded.
"These claims became part of our normal workload," the VA Public Affairs email said. "They are not tracked separately."
In February 2018, Noller could not answer how many veterans waiting for refunds had died.
"The VA is unable to determine how many veterans with denied claims since 2010 have died," he wrote.
Publication of Staab: An unforeseen obstacle
Staab's story is also personal for National Veterans Legal Services Program, or NVLSP, Executive Director Bart Stichman.
He previously was part of the team representing Staab nationally and is now fighting the VA's emergency care denials with a class action lawsuit.
While Staab's court victory specified the VA has to pay the remainder of a non-VA emergency bill, even if a veteran has other insurance, the NVLSP claims that is not happening and says the VA is rejecting claims anyway.
"The problem with the new regulation is the VA came up with a different reason for why they shouldn't reimburse veterans who have some private insurance," Stichman said.
The class action suit also claims the VA circumvented Congress by adding the words "deductibles and coinsurance" to the part of the Staab Rule allowing the VA to not cover co-payments.
"And the VA is trying to drive a Mack truck through that minor exception," Stichman said. "So that everything you could possibly reimburse a veteran for, is not subject to reimbursement."
Responding last month to the NVLSP suit, the VA claimed since congress used the term ‘similar payments’ when referencing co-payments, the agency was allowed to interpret the language to mean they are allowed to insert deductibles and coinsurance into the statute.
Staab: "Life is a battle"
Even after Staab had a VA rule named after him, he still does not have his refund.
"Should you cry for all the other servicemen who haven't got their just?" he asked. "It's just not me. It's all the other ones."
Based on his case, he and his lawyer do not think any other veteran has a refund either.
"I'm angry about the whole thing. I'm angry for my client. I'm angry for the thousands of others," Schuh said. "This impacts every military member. Past, currently serving and in the future, until it's fixed,"
Schuh said to look no further than Staab surviving another stroke in 2017. The VA is now using his own law, the Staab Rule, to cite cost shares or deductibles associated with his other health insurance to reject payment for his non-VA emergency care.
"I just can't believe, in my heart, that that would've been Congress' intent," Schuh added.
So Staab chooses to continue fighting and hoping that someday he, and the hundreds of thousands of other veterans he represents, will finally see justice.
"Life is a battle, isn't it?" Staab said. "And you've got to have hope. You made the right decisions. And let's face it. Not everything goes that smooth."
In late March, Schuh received a VA Board of Veterans Appeals’ response dating back to Staab’s original emergency care.
Despite the U.S. Court of Appeals for Veterans’ Claims finding in Staab’s favor years ago, the Board’s deputy vice chair denied most of his appeal based on the grounds that Staab, in their view, had chosen to primarily receive rehabilitation treatment at a private, non-VA facility.
The decision means Staab is only eligible for about a $2,000 refund, with the other $46,000 denied. The case could now be headed for another appeal.
Under federal law, if a veteran dies their benefit dies with them.
However, Schuh believes the VA is using the private facility narrative as a stonewalling tactic. Settling Staab, in her view, could potentially open the VA up to having to change their system which could add billions to the VA’s budget if they had to cover non-VA emergency costs.
Staab hopes hearing his story means more veterans join this class action lawsuit.
He would also like to see lawmakers address the VA's 72-hour rule, which requires veterans inform the VA within 72 hours of receiving non-VA emergency care, or the bill might not be covered
"Well what's being forgotten is the fact that you're a serviceman. And if all of a sudden he's in a bad way and needs hospitalization, he's got to have enough sense to call the VA," Staab said.
Is a law change necessary?
Staab's lawyer and NVLSP, the national group behind this class action lawsuit, are hopeful the court will find in their favor, and strike the VA’s ‘coincidence’ and ‘deductible’ language from stature.
However, if the claim is unsuccessful, they feel lawmakers need to step in and make that change. They say Staab's story shows how major loopholes remain within this system.
Since February, the I-Team has requested VA comment, as well as submitting two Freedom of Information Act Requests seeking any and all information related to Staab Rule reimbursements.